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True, at later size, DMR decreases to 99.99%
Think it was 65.000 ft2, but i'm doing that out of the top of my head.

And for the rounding differences, i didnt use rounding, so that could be the catch.

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dmr decreases??? that doesn't really sound right... it would kinda cancel the whole point of dmr, wouldn't it? it would be more plausible if it increased with very large buildings. but then again, if you take into consideration the level reductions, it does...

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Dmr is still there, but after a certain size, the dmr effect for the additional 100fts' is reduced. They found that if they didnt do that, then you could actually produce close to 0

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Dmr is still there, but after a certain size, the dmr effect for the additional 100fts' is reduced. They found that if they didnt do that, then you could actually produce close to 0


Yeah, so darn true, at a certain point u'd even lose money by becomming larger, they made it so that u'd at least be able to produce/sell 10% of the original 100% excluding level reductions, training reduction and tax increases.

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This ceiling on DMR reduction of efficiency has an interesting effect on optimal building size. Once a building is 65k sq ft in size, the DMR effect has been largely realized, and everything after that just reduces efficiency by 0.01% per 100 sq ft. So, it does not matter very much if you have 9 buildings of 100k size and one of 200k size, compared with 10 buildings of 110k size. For factories, farms, and stores of less than 65k sq ft, it matters a LOT if you have some small and some very large, as the additional production from adding to a 50k building is much lower than the additional production of adding to a 20k building. But, once all your properties are at 65k size or larger, the relative differences in efficiency between adding to a building of 100k size or one of 120k size are fairly minor comparatively.

To illustrate this point:

20k factory building expanded 100 sq ft gives you 55% of the production increase that your first 100 sq ft had
50k factory building expanded 100 sq ft gives you 22.3% of the production increase that your first 100 sq ft had
120k factory building expanded 100 sq ft gives you 13.5% of the production increase that your first 100 sq ft had
150k factory building expanded 100 sq ft gives you 13.1% of the production increase that your first 100 sq ft had

So, if you have to decide whether to expand a building of 20k sq ft or one of 50k sq ft, always expand the smaller one. But, if you are deciding whether to expand a 120k building or a 150k building, it does not really matter much from an efficiency perspective which one you choose to expand.


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This ceiling on DMR reduction of efficiency has an interesting effect on optimal building size. Once a building is 65k sq ft in size, the DMR effect has been largely realized, and everything after that just reduces efficiency by 0.01% per 100 sq ft. So, it does not matter very much if you have 9 buildings of 100k size and one of 200k size, compared with 10 buildings of 110k size. For factories, farms, and stores of less than 65k sq ft, it matters a LOT if you have some small and some very large, as the additional production from adding to a 50k building is much lower than the additional production of adding to a 20k building. But, once all your properties are at 65k size or larger, the relative differences in efficiency between adding to a building of 100k size or one of 120k size are fairly minor comparatively.

To illustrate this point:

20k factory building expanded 100 sq ft gives you 55% of the production increase that your first 100 sq ft had
50k factory building expanded 100 sq ft gives you 22.3% of the production increase that your first 100 sq ft had
120k factory building expanded 100 sq ft gives you 13.5% of the production increase that your first 100 sq ft had
150k factory building expanded 100 sq ft gives you 13.1% of the production increase that your first 100 sq ft had

So, if you have to decide whether to expand a building of 20k sq ft or one of 50k sq ft, always expand the smaller one. But, if you are deciding whether to expand a 120k building or a 150k building, it does not really matter much from an efficiency perspective which one you choose to expand.


Completely true, still i like to have stores of almost the same size.

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DMR is taking a effect on me too now,

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me too... now realising the effect of DMR.. 40000sqft steel factory producing 35000/day and 75000sqft producing 47000/day...

size is almost doubled and production increased only 1/3rd.. :eyeroll:


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is ti possible for DMR, to eventually make a smaller building produce as much or more than a bigger building?

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Nope, only at points where u level and the level reduction kicks in it will feel like doing just that, but its not.

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is ti possible for DMR, to eventually make a smaller building produce as much or more than a bigger building?


it can't. dmr works by increasing production/sales with a fraction of what it actually should. so by doubling your surface, production doesn't double but increase by 1.x or 0.x%. (there's a plus there)

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caennymc wrote:
milkco. wrote:
is ti possible for DMR, to eventually make a smaller building produce as much or more than a bigger building?


it can't. dmr works by increasing production/sales with a fraction of what it actually should. so by doubling your surface, production doesn't double but increase by 1.x or 0.x%. (there's a plus there)


yeah I figured, but eventuallty, you would lose money by ex[anding, and it would be bad not good, as for level DMR, after about level ten, unless your in the raw business, and you want Very huge sites, after about level ten, score is bad.

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you don't necessarily lose money. you'll just have a crazy low ROI

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caennymc wrote:
you don't necessarily lose money. you'll just have a crazy low ROI
you would lose money, becuase you spend money on expansion, and you don't get it back through profit.

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how come?

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